Again, if youd like not to remarry, I respect that and honor that. Copyright Like The Master Ministries. There are certain things you can reverse. And if he does, did he just exclude the sin of adultery? Youre suggesting that the teaching of Gods unconditional forgiveness to believers as a message of sin all you want, and God will forgive you. You became forgiven. And if youre like most Americans today during the Sabbath youre probably still cooking, washing dishes or cleaning the house a little. Could I request you a simple favor? That would be the Secret Bond Christians like to believe they take part in Marriage and Divorce is the one and really the one thing mention in all 3 scriptures. Youre that person that wants the world to know Jesus died for their sinsunless they sin again. I just want to know what about the family that was damaged for no reason other than he decided he wanted a new wife. But, as a legalist, youre going to be blind to this because youre seeking out fear, condemnation, and punishment from Jesus. I pray that God gives you strength to continue your journey. 7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. Is it a sin to divorce if you profess to be a Christian? It was Gods solution. Look with lust, guilty adultery. God does not have a bucket of some sins Christians can be forgiven of, and some that arent. The apostle Paul talks about this long laundry list of people who were not inherit the Kingdom. For example, Women find themselves confined during their monthly cycle because they are viewed as defiled. Thats enough to shut the mouth of every Christian man. Michael, Part of me knows you are right. I met someone about two years ago, and we desire to marry. This type of message angered the Jewish elite. The way I read these verses it would appear he doesnt recognize my current marriage Because all the verses are clear about not remarrying unless there is a death. The relationship is still there. Youre not quite quoting me correctly. Its a commitment. So, with my view clearly showing that, in most cases (not all), that I am not in favor of divorce, lets answer the question. But at the point of salvation, they were immediately sanctified, justified, and washed. I totally get what you are saying, I do. Love is patient,love is kind. This is about married people who are arguing and fighting, and as a result, not praying together. I know these verses are lifted up high to scare Christians. Its written to Jewish people. Take Away: It is a terrible thing that your husband has done to you. -Greedy Yes, the Corinthians are committing all kinds of sins. None of my ex's are dead.Can you live in adultery, be married to a man, and live a godly life? Hes not. They are chasing after the LAW. We are making five years since we wedded. If you are a believer no sin remains unforgiven. So I have a challenge for you. Thanks for having this thread. No condemnation. That was the point, under that covenant all of humanity is doomed. I believe our marriage is a picture of Christ in us, and we express Him through our marriage. Do you believe him when he says you are righteous, holy, justified, sanctified, blameless? I didnt come to destroy them, but to fulfil them. He writes: [1 Cor 6:11] Such WERE some of you; but you were WASHED, but you were SANCTIFIED, but you were JUSTIFIED in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; What does God say about a person marrying someone who has been divorced. Weve been justified. And I will leave you with these two verses. More insights from your Bible study - Get Started with Logos Bible Software for Free! You cited Rev 3:5 as if it was a threat from God. You were doing good until you had to slip the dig in calling it sugar coating. That is one of the sins listed which will prevent you from going to Heaven. All of your sins or in the future when Jesus died. Stop adding rules and regulations to the promises of God. You dont die day after day after day. Adultery is the adulteration of marriage by the addition of a third person. We based our decision to accept Jesus for His goodness for having allowed us to wed.and we had this verse 2 chorintians 5:17 that says if one is in Christ is a new creation, the old is gone and the new is here This is speaking to CHRISTIANS, AFTER Christ was crucified for our sins: When Jesus is clear there is no reason to muddy the waters by factoring in our personal desires. Therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are Gods. Moreover, they are washed. I dont know all the details, and Im not asking you to spill them here. Correct Response To God's Answer On occasions a spouse, who has committed adultery, declares that they will remarry even if God says no. Returning dying with Christ, and some type of ongoing event. Its about the heart. 14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; REV 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out* his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. And I promise you, this was not the entire list. As it stands now, you really have not made your position valid. [Galatians 5:24] Those who belong to Christ Jesus HAVE crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Bottom line, you do fully not trust Jesus, and sadly, do you think youre human performance either activates or deactivates the blood he shed on the cross. So you can hijack this post with all of your comments but all youre doing is revealing that you do not believe God and the promises he made. 1:02 Infidelity is unfaithfulness to a spouse or sexual partner, and it can also be disbelief in a religion. Will God forgive me if I commit adultery again and again and again? - Quora But it will never ever fulfill us. We actually point to a totally different article, if someone is married and considering divorce. This video was created for people that are ALREADY divorced and perhaps struggling with how God may view them. Knowing him he prob would tho. I hope you do not put limitations on the work of the cross in other areas as well. Do you see it? Yes, that is still a sin if you are not married. Lets start by talking about ALL the sins in that list of people who wont inherit the kingdom: -idolaters I have to leave the game and if you attempt to post it again we will block you from this page. That pretty much makes every human being on the earth guilty of adultery. Several times. However, I do not believe my marriage is. Theyve been made partakers. In an earlier post, Mr. Rovbal rightfully so acknowledged that hes not so perfect either. Prayers are being lifted up for you. I love my husband so much & the thought of leaving him hurts so badly, but I do not want to live in sin. What do we know about every one of these verses? For me and my family, we will not water down the blood of Christ. Not Abraham. Meaning, why are you begging for something God has already given you? However he is not the only Bible scholar to say exactly what he does. Consider this before you teach that view to other people this evening. It is not surprising, then, that when asked about divorce and remarriage, Jesus took his listeners all the way back to the beginning, reminding them that God created humanity as male and female ( Gen. 1:27) and stipulated that the man, upon marriage, was to leave his father and mother and to be united to his wife ( Gen. 2:24) in a one-flesh . But, if we have called on Jesus, he is not picking in choosing which sins he has washed away. Also, no one is suggesting that we should just go out and get divorced. We should make every effort to remain married. If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people, and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. I mean this respectfully, but you have completely missed the context of Pauls letter. But you were justified in the name of Christ. Luke 16:18, I was into a relationship after I divorced him, but God is so good. BUT, if you believe in Jesus, you may have once been an adulterer, but thats what you were (past tense), but now you are washed. I dont want to make this transactional with God, but I have allocated a small fund that I plan to distribute as a blessing to a few people those in desperate need around the world, especially those affected by the pandemic, and part of it also includes a token of appreciation for those who prayed for me and those who supported me inorder to get a successful divorce, and I have bookmarked your page for my future reference. You were justified 1 Cor 6:11. We thought you would handle it if you truly want to help them. If I am continually engaging in the same sin and asking for forgiveness from the same sin, I should examine my heart and my behaviors. -2 Chronicles 7:12-14 NASB1995. First please note in no way do I want to come across like Im condoning divorce. You have missed the context. Now you can take the forgiveness message as a license to sin, or you can stop insulting the grace of God and recognize that we are not leading people to sin, rather we are showing down the grace of God. The law just offers up the punishment. We have all of these from God because of Jesus. 17 For if by the offense of the one, death reigned through the one, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ. With God's people of old, "with overwhelming grief I get that God forgives, but I am confused by the teaching of He forgives without mentioning that one must repent before receiving that forgiveness. We can belittle them. And please know I appreciate and enjoy this dialogue. Sometimes I looked with lust. My name is sarah living in USA, My husband left me for a good 3 years now, and i love him so much. Thats why, as it applies to salvation, the new covenant completely releases you from any responsibility. Thank you. The message was 90% behavior improvement and how bad you are, with a pinch of who you are in Christ, It was like every sermon was being preached to the church of Corinth. So let me clarify based on what youve written. But you were WASHED, you were SANCTIFIED, you were JUSTIFIED in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. Mathew 12:31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Jesus is. The answer could be summed up with any kind of sin. You are literally putting people back under the Mosaic law for salvation. That includes people who are divorced and remarried. When it comes to Christians, theres not a single verse in all of scripture that says ANY sin is not forgiven. Do we really believe that people who struggle with alcohol but love Jesus will not inherit the kingdom? . They did not want to talk about faith. Its not about the physical act. You will not find a single post cross verse calling a believer an adulteress person. Thanks for the kind words. Repent and kingdom of God belongs to people such as we who have repented. This is the Corinthians attitude. I would encourage you to go back and Study the new covenant and what it means for you. ALL unbelievers live in a constant state of adultery. God only grants divorce with the right to remarry, with His blessing, for two reasons: 1) your partner had sexual relations with someone outside of the marriage, and 2) if your spouse is an unbeliever and he/she wants to leave. Youve missed it. However, Jewish culture was based on Mosaic legislation which required virginity in a bride, on penalty of death (Deuteronomy 22:20-21). I taught Sunday School. You can ignore David Pawsons teaching on this subject at you own peril, change your thinking, or explain where he is in error. We are the righteousness of Christ. They were sanctified. Its not healthy when our entire happiness rest on the shoulders of our spouse, or any other human. This cannot be said often or strongly enough, which is why we have said it in so many different ways. This especially holds true if your spouse is a Christian and wants to be married to you. I absolutely believe Christians should do everything reasonably possible to remain married. While we all stumble in many ways, and all sin is worthy of death, the sin of murder requires an extreme level of evil to be present. God can forgive all sins. Judgment from other believers should only occur when the sin is open, arrogant, prideful, and an insult to how it makes the body of Christ look. This video was created for people who were already in the situation (divorced) and were seeking a deeper understanding as to how God viewed them. A person can be an alcoholic and be saved. What I said was that God forgives us. Thank you in advance. The Old Testament is history and is needed to explain the new and purpose of the new. Of course, he does not want us to sin. And like them, youve missed it. I'm just saying that everyone wins when we forgive. Im curious if you somehow walked away thinking we are against confessing (agreeing with God)? Note: Agreeing that its sin and wrong to do is not the same as being under the penalty of the law. They were washed. It never ends. Under the Old Covenant law, given to ancient Israel under a theocracy, the punishment for adultery was death ( Leviticus 20:10 ). Or we can choose to forgive the offense and treat them with respect, honor, and dignity. When and Why God Permits Divorce | NeverThirsty Thats the message thats going on in this parable. .You see salvation is about knowing God. We are made for good works. I am married for 38 years. They wont enter it because of unbelief. You think its based on their law-keeping and outward sin. Good for you, because I am alone also and yes its hard. ALL of these verses you are reading are before the cross. 1-You do not believe that Jesus took all the punishment for our sins. 10 makes it clear that what we did before we were saved is forgiven and in the past. You dont get to do your best and just beg for forgiveness when you mess up. He said he doesnt love me anymore. This testimony is a true story and my name is Jennifer Sanchez. You are free from the law. This was not about their performance. Jesus forgives all our sins and promises to never hold them against us. Once you have been saved, God forgives you of your past and you move on in the new marriage. Your relationship is built on what Jesus did on the cross because, even on our best day, our performance could never make a difference. Also there are couples who do sexual intercourse when they are not wed or saved and even have children. You wont dare let people believe and trust that Jesus was a propitiation for their sins. They are also guilty of lying, cheating, stealing, and every aspect of the law. Its remarriage we are concerned with, as that is what. You were cleansed. This tells us where our affections are at. Of course, we should never use our freedom to please the flesh. He views you as the sum total of who you are in. You need to believe that adultery is included in the list of sins that Jesus shed his blood for. Its not once saved always saved So you can live how you like, dont be deceived. I am glad I found this page. Many things in the old law are being stated. He feels he does not have to help me financially. Youre trying to connect dots between murder and adultery but simply are not there. They are forgiven. I am extremely obese and I smoke a lot. So today and tomorrow I will crucify my flesh. Retreat. Of course the apostle Pauls telling them why would you Corinthians do something that before you got saved lead to eternal death. But God does not activate our forgiveness by asking for it for each and every individual sin. 11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) Its not semantics. Should I divorce my second spouse to end my adultery? If adultery is sin, and Jesus died for it and took it away, why are we begging for forgiveness? They knew they were indeed free to do whatever without punishment. Tough? And he meant that exactly as he said.that is, IF you are under the old covenant law. Is the lie or the next hateful thought unforgivable? How can the sin of adultery be forgiven? - NeverThirsty The only thing that saves us is faith in Jesus. A non-profit, 501(c)3 corporation. 7:10. How many ways must he say for you to believe him? However, we are not called to run around judging each other over every bad choice we make. When the world sees this forgiveness in our marriage, we are symbolically showing them who Jesus is for us. Then the Lord appeared to Solomon at night and said to him, I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice. This sounds more like youre in some kind of a Satanic cult. What did Jesus do about those sins? There is no condemnation for those in Christ. Hebrews 9:28 tells us Christ was offered to bear the sins of many, and will appear a second time for salvation WITHOUT reference sin The encouragement is he will NOT erase our names. Other Christians say that I am not because I have divorced so many times. But honestly my friend, I hope the day you stand before Jesus the only thing pouring out of your heart is a huge thank you for what he did for you. We are indeed called to avoid adultery. When he spoke of divorce and remarriage he was very clear. Gods heart would be that you recognize your security and identity in Jesus Christ. At the very least, I would encourage you to put that on pause until the marriage has ended. Can Your Marriage Overcome Adultery? - Christian Marriage - Crosswalk Grace is not a license to sin, (Apostle Paul clearly stated), when we do, then: 1John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. You cant undo it. Rachel, you wrote I am only speaking of repenting and forgiveness, not repenting where salvation is concerned. Mark and Luke, who were speaking to Gentiles, did not even include it in their records of Christs teaching on marriage, because they would not have known of the Jewish marriage custom. Am a divorced woman and remarried. If you wouldve just continued a little further in that chapter you wouldve seen what Im sharing with you is correct. So then how could the remarried be allowed into heaven? If a person divorces and remarries, is it always going to be adulterous? Thanks be to Jesus that our way to righteousness is not keeping 613 law, but rather through faith alone. And that, my friend, is your message. Im sad because I dont think you can trust Grace because you think it will lead us to more sin. I acknowledge that we are all sinners, thats why Christ died. Romans chapter 1 -3 is addressing planet earth has a problem. Of course, there should. It may have a major impact on our children. Lets tackle your actual comment. If you are married (OR REMARRIED), I believe it is Gods heart that you should do everything reasonably possible to continue in that marriage. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. Let's start with the easier one. I want to leave you with 1 Corinthians 13:4-8. Your forgiveness is continually activated because of the one time you place your faith in Jesus. -sexual immorality (this will include having sex when youre not married. But, if you put a homosexual in front of me who has called on the name of Jesus, Im going to tell you that he is just as righteous and just as loud as the person who is doing everything they can to be obedient. Does speaking down to your spouse hurt your marriage or help it? Youre bringing up adultery. Neither shalt thou commit adultery . I understand that I can never take Gods love, grace, mercy, and forgiveness for granted, but there are some pastors who will say sin all you want, God will forgive you. You fail to recognize that salvation is about being born again and receiving new life. If our opinion about anything contradicts Gods word, guess which one is wrong? Its addressing people who already had this in the past. Some people have weak faith and they think that means we should just go out and commit world records for sin.